Birth Of Octuplets Spurs Debate

   By drodriguez  Feb 01, 2009
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One young mother and her eight new babies are causing quite a stir in the news recently.  Because of the details surrounding Nadya Suleman’s case, the ethics involved in the birth of her octuplets has become much debated over.  Suleman, who is a 33-year-old single mother of six children from previous in-vitro procedures, currently lives with her parents.

Nadya Suleman's mother, Angela Suleman, has expressed concern over her daughter’s actions and recently told the Associated Press that she was not supportive of her decision to have more children.  Angela Suleman has told the press that her daughter was obsessed with having children and has talked about it since she was a teenager.

The Associated Press reports that all of the 8 babies, 6 boys and 2 girls, were delivered by Cesarean section.  The babies weighed anywhere between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces.  Seven of the eight babies are breathing on their own while one remains on a respirator.  It took 46 doctors and staff to assist in the delivery of these octuplets. 

Much of the recent debate has been about whether doctors should have offered the 33-year-old mother of six the option to undergo in-vitro fertilization treatment.  Ethicists also question why the doctors would have implanted so many embryos.  And still others worry about how the mother will raise 14 children, now ranging in age from newborn to 7 years old and whether she will end up relying on public assistance.

A former caregiver to Nadya Suleman’s autistic son, Yolanda Garcia, spoke with the Long Beach Press-Telegram about the mother’s recent delivery.  She said, “From what I could tell back then, she was pretty happy with herself, saying she liked having kids and she wanted 12 kids in all.” 

What do you think of the news about the recent octuplet birth?

Do you think doctors are at fault for allowing this mother to receive fertility treatment?



 

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jbrewer by jbrewer | NEWBERRY, FL
Feb 07, 2009

I don't have a problem with her being single, unemployed or having had several previous children. I don't even have a problem with her having in vitro again if she could afford it. However, I do think that implanting so many eggs when she obviously wasn't having a hard time staying pregnant seems careless of both her and the doctor. I didn't think they implant that many eggs now a days for even someone with no previous children or someone they are concerned that the eggs may not "stick".

red1977 by red1977 | Spring Hill, FL
Feb 07, 2009

I think she is just cray if she wanted more children so bad why risk the health of one baby by having multiples, especially eight. One of those babies is still not breathing on its own and just because she wanted more children I just pray that all the babies pull through. I do think the doctors acted irresposably by implanting her at all, I think background and psychiatric checks shoud be routine to make sure the mother can financially and emotionally tsake care of the child or children before being given IVF.

brennysmom by brennysmom | Kent, WA
Feb 07, 2009

I pray she can work it all out. I give her kudos if she can. Hopefully her schooling goes the way she hopes it will and she'll be able to get a good job to pay for those children.

Love2fly by Love2fly | Portland, OR
Feb 07, 2009

I was sure that getting a kitten at Christmas was a huge expense. With food and litter and chip, and fixing him, etc... Wow and I have a job. What the heck is that lady thinking she has no job, and no home, and believes (only if she clicks her heals three times) that her education will bring a job to pay for all of the childrens expenses, oh yes and the burden on her friends and Church.... Reality Check Lady Children need LOVE...

jayngee by jayngee | Compton, CA
Feb 07, 2009

I have to say that I don't agree with her decision to go in for yet another implantation. I was listening to a psychologist on tv and I agreed with her when she said that those kids where going to have all kinds of problems, not just medically, but mentally. There are so many of them that some are bound to be neglected. I become even more baffled when I hear her say that she wants to go back to school for a masters. This is unfair to the children. She is being selfish.

mariab10 by mariab10 | SOMERVILLE, MA
Feb 06, 2009

Anyone watch the interview? She had a dysfunctional childhood and decided to get therapy to help cope--except she used fertilization rather than psychological therapy. As someone who worked in a mental institution and who's pursuing a degree in psychology, she should have known better. Although she says she'll be able to support her children monetarily, how can she possibly provide a secure emotional environment for so many of them? She has issues, and someone should have intervened. I think that parents pursuing fertility treatments ought to be forced to undergo the same amount of therapy and intervention required for those seeking to adopt. If someone (her doctor, maybe) had stopped to talk to the poor woman, maybe this tragedy wouldn't have happened. I guess at this point, all we can do is to hope for the best for those babies.

laurainsa by laurainsa | San Antonio, TX
Feb 06, 2009

Funny how for women who arent able to have kids must follow all kinds of crazy rules to adopt a child that was given up to begin with, unwanted and longing for a new home. Here you have a person who has to abide by no rules and is allowed to be implanted granted there is no husband, no rules on financial means. Only rule is there must be a working uterus. I think thats discrimination.

Missdelightful by Missdelightful | Parsippany, NJ
Feb 06, 2009

The mother Nadya Suleman was in an interview on the TODAY show this morning and from what I gathered from this interview she lives in a fantasy world. She honestly believes that she will be able to support 14 children alone, without welfare, and be able to go back to college to achieve her masters degree. I really don't think she has any idea how difficult it is going to be to raise 14 children as a single mother. She said it is her job to be a mother I understand that it is a full time job but how can you finically support a family of 15 on just being a mother? I think she has made a careless, selfish decision that may damage the lives of these innocent children. Doctors should have never been allowed to go ahead with a procedure like this knowing that she already had six children to support by herself.

rusty2rusty by rusty2rusty | DEFIANCE, OH
Feb 06, 2009

I can't believe all the negativity I have been reading about this woman. Why was it okay years ago to have 14 children and be poor? But to have so many today, be single and not have the government help is wrong? How so. I say leave the woman alone. She isn't abusing her children, she loves them dearly and takes care of them. leave her be. Who cares what the mother thinks, its not her body or her decision. Why should she had adopted instead when she had a wonderful birth with her children? I think she is amazing. I had trouble carrying one child at a time in my womb. I have no clue how she did 8.

cool23 by cool23 | san jose, CA
Feb 06, 2009

This is really ridiculous, in this tough time how can she manage raising 14 kids.....If I was in her position I would have given my babies for adoption to the desired couple who doesn't have kids...

testingmama by testingmama | Quantico, VA
Feb 05, 2009

I just read a new article with some info from her first interview and it didn't sound like she was on welfare. It said she was disabled in an accident at work several years ago so maybe disability with her parents help is enough?

jenniwalsh1 by jenniwalsh1 | Mansfield, TX
Feb 05, 2009

People are perfectly capable of taking care of lots of kids! Just because modern day culture says that having more then two kids is just sick or too hard doesn't mean it really is! I know lots of families who have lots of kids and they are just fine. I know one family who has 15 kids, and they live quite comfortably and are very happy! In the olden days they had more kids and nobody is saying they were crazy for having more kids. I do not agree with this lady demanding money from everybody, but she has the right to have that many kids and to take care of them herself.

yayathomas by yayathomas | Brandon, MS
Feb 05, 2009

This is absolutely ridiculous!

melissat519 by melissat519 | collingdale, PA
Feb 05, 2009

In this case I think it is wrong. She already has 6 children and lives with her mother. She is not supporting these children. I am going to assume she gets public assistance, which is tax payers money. I am not against that, in the case of some. When people take advantage of the system, it is completely wrong. Why should everybody else be responsible in providing for her first 6 children, now there are 8 additional babies who need formula, diapers and other NEEDED items. That doesn't include the common helpful items. This is unfair to the entire family. If there was a Father present who was working his butt off to provide all he could, then I would feel a little different. This is an obvious situation that is not healthy and I believe the state should pay for counseling, not formula and food stamps.

laguna_dreamz by laguna_dreamz | Waldoboro, ME
Feb 05, 2009

Wow. That's crazy!!! I think it's nuts that someone can just be helped with an IVF to have MORE kids, that are supported by the state and taxpayers. But people, like me, HARD WORKING, honest single parents that just barely squeek by paycheck to paycheck to pay for everything that involves raising ONE child, I cant even go into DHHS and ask for a little help if something breaks on my car!!! HOW ARE THEY HELPING THIS CRAZY LADY?!?!?!?!? the world is just wrong plain wrong.